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I'm going to allow you to choose our topic for Chilcot today. Sneak attack. Well, I would say hydration because I'm so focused on it in a minute, but I don't think that's all that interesting. So how do you do hydration? Well, I am really not good about hydrating. I am really a bit of a camel, and every once in a while I go, I'm supposed to be drinking those, 64 ounces, whatever that amounts to and metric. But yeah, I don't drink anywhere near that. Two liters, that's what the recommended is here. So I'm assuming two liters, 64 ounces, what's a pint, 8 ounces? A pint is 2 cups, right? So that's 16 ounces. seeing as my kitchen is right there. There you go. Might as well make sure we're right here between the two 60 plus volts. 2 liters is about 2 and a half pints, I think is what it is. So 35 fluid ounces is a liter, okay. Yeah. So it's, a top tip before we move on to you choosing the topic for what we're going to talk about today from a friend of mine who's an EFT practitioner what she does is she keeps a jug of water on her desk and a glass and she reckons proximity breeds discipline. And I think it's a good way to do it. So it's always, just by virtue of having the glass with the jug there, she keeps on filling it. And if the jug is finished or the glass is empty, she fills it up again, well, that's good. I got kind of used to Montana, but you had to drink and they gave us these beautiful thermoses, which, they look good, but more importantly, they really, really keep everything freezing. Oh, what do they look like? We love beautiful March. Luxe yoga. No, no, no, no, no. You could have been much more creative at that. If we're doing streets, we're going to be much more creative and send people home with beautiful bottles. I agree with that. But it, I mean, the ice cubes were in there, overnight, I was very impressed. So anyway, I started using the hydrating powders that are a little flavored. Sometimes they have salts in them people have a fear of salt, but I think we need some salt well, I know at hot yoga, if people are feeling faint, they make you take some salt in your water, the people we do the psilocybin journeys, at the beginning of every, session, they make you show Your little kit and they want to see what liquid, you have they recommend a particular brand, I just learned on this trip, how to use them so they don't make me gag, which is to, have just, a little bit of sweetness And it's helping me and it's just very hot right now. So I'm trying to drink a lot. I was trying to drink a lot there. Because the, particularly I was in high elevation, both in Montana and in Tahoe, and I was having some headaches so that was tell you to drink more and in higher elevation, but I am sensitive to that. It's not so much the vertigo. I just really feel it in my chest And, have a little trouble breathing for a few days. So it just always takes me time to adjust. Right. So it's very hot in Los Angeles right now, and it's humid, which is not like a normal LA thing, but we seem to be gravitating toward that a little bit because. climate change. And so I'm really trying to keep hydrated. Yeah. Wow. So what would you like to speak about? Okay, so what I just popped into my head, and this is something I've been toying with, we talked a lot and we will continue to do so about daily practice and the importance of it, right? And exercise is an important part of that. And I'm pretty sure you feel like I just got to move my body in some way every day, right? Right. But, every once in a while, I'll read something about the school of thought of kind of a less is more kind of thing, that pushing your pushing yourself and I mean, you need to push yourself, you need to get your heart rate up, you need to sweat. But, sometimes I think. Between the yoga and the hiking. And, I do classes at home, online, and those usually involve, some cardio, some weights, et cetera. And, exercise isn't my favorite pastime, I'm not addicted to it, but it's like, it's part of the routine in the morning. This is what I do. To start my day and I do sort of physically crave it, so but sometimes I just wonder, what if I just went for a nice walk every day? Would that do it? Would that get the weight off more? do I really need to be doing all this stuff with weights? I don't know. I'm no authority. I'm going to start there. I've always carried a few more kilos than I would have liked, and I've put on 10 kilos since I broke my wrist and had six months out with a muscle on my right calf. So, and, and they're coming off slowly. But super slowly, we're talking about grass, and I've decided that that's how I want them to come off because various things. So where does one start with daily exercise and daily practice? So I will always do something yogic and my yogic practice will always have some physical. asana and physical movement in it. The less time I have, the more it leans towards meditation. So I'm not getting a lot of movement in my body. Then my siblings bought me, and we've had this conversation a Apple watch in March and the reason for my birthday and the reason I wanted it is, because I wanted to track and see, was I getting enough movement? And it seems that I am, but some days I don't close all my circles. So what I do is I like to walk every day. to do 000 steps every day. I mean, do I do it every day? Do I miss a day? Yeah, but it's kind of like my daily practice. I'll occasionally miss a day and I don't beat myself up over that. With the. And with both of them, yeah, if I miss a couple of days, I'm back on it. So, but the thing about weight, and my brother and I talk about this a lot because it kind of runs in our family that everyone is kind of a couple of kilos and some families don't have this issue at all. And he always will say, and it's true, weight isn't about exercise. It's about food. and so I'm conscious of my portion size, and I have a healthy appetite. I'm conscious, super conscious of what I eat. I'll have one slice of bread a day. I don't want to have a war on carbs but I'm aware of carbs. I try not to eat carbs at night, but I did have pasta for dinner on Sunday, but then I didn't have anything to eat all that day. I, at the moment I'm trying to do a bowl of coffee in the morning and so do a, what is it called? An 18 6. So that intermittent fasting, because I do want to shift this weight. And I think the way to do it is probably to do an occasional fast, because I think it's good for your body to kind of go like, Oh my God. But it is about food, I mean, I eat mainly vegetarian, but I made this amazing. It was funny, my sister and her husband and her daughter are coming, and they just were at the snow and the snow wasn't great. So they decided to come back by the coast. So they came and spent the weekend. And on Friday, I said, okay, so have I any vegetarians? Because the way that people move between one thing and another these days, and it was no, and I'd come across this great, oh no, I'd been out and I'd had this amazing Massaman curry. Like I eat beef. I wouldn't even eat beef once a month, like Rowan here, who has organic, his cattle are completely organic, but give me when he does a kill. So then I'll make it and we'll all have something. And I have the most amazing beef cheeks recipe, which I will give to you at some point. But anyway, so I decided oh, it's amazing. It's with orange round and juniper berries. Fantastic. Yeah. So anyway, so I decided I wanted to make this Massaman curry from Dish Magazine, which is a great New Zealand magazine, which I'll put the recipe and the link in the show notes. Because I was also having some other people. So I thought, Oh, I'll do beef. And I wanted to do this Massaman curry. Sorry, that's a long way of getting around. And they didn't eat meat, neither of them. And of course I forgot to check because, your man has been for dinner here before and I think I, served a chicken sambal. And so anyway, but I had made this great paneer, which was fantastic. So, what's the point in this is I really. Believe and, if you choose to be whatever your food preference, that's your thing, but I believe that we're here for to really enjoy all that life has to offer, which is wine, which is a great green juice, all of that. And, I spent a lot of time, Kyron is in my first house, and, and that's the house of identity, it's the house of your physicality. so you could say it's the house of your body image. Now, second house is your house of self worth and self value. But the first house is about your body image. It's about your physicality. That's where my wound is. I've spent so much of my life having a conversation that my arse is too fat. Like, does anybody else consider that my arse is too fat? It doesn't matter because I'm the one who lives with it. And, and I've got strong thighs strong legs, but Aries is supposed to be athletic. Like that's the Aries physicality, every sign has a different physicality. And I did a lot of work with Venus last year, and we are in Venus retrograde now, which is all about coming into that space of self love. A number of years ago, I did a series of, making yourself enchantingly beautiful and making the body beautiful, which is a beautiful, but super tough Kundalini Kriya, and I did it for three or four months and it completely changed and healed my relationship. So, in terms of daily practice, I sincerely believe that the energy of when you're cooking and the energy of when you're eating, I think the environment of where you're eating, how you're enjoying it or the conversation you bring is super, super important in how this all turns out. I am aware, so. But I probably do have something little sweet every day, little, like, and then there'll be days where I'll notice, oh, I haven't had anything sweet for three or four days. So I do try intuitive eating, but as Grace says, what is it she says she tried. Intuitive eating. And she said, if she's got a few kilos, she doesn't like having a few kilos because her belly gets in the way when she's doing her yoga. And I'm the same, I want to go into, and I've made a commitment to myself. I want to go into my older years lighter. and it's not to do with, that I want to be skinny. I've given up whatever the body image is, but I want to be in a space of where I feel strong, which I do really feel strong. I fit but always with my body, I've always thought I never want to not be able to do something because of my body. I never want to be limited in terms of an activity because of my fitness. I never want to be limited and not be able to do something because of my physicality. Now, when I broke my wrist and also after that injury in my leg, I lost body confidence. I lost and it's a difference too, a kind of, oh, the sexuality or the look of my body, but I lost the confidence in my body to be able to jump off something or for, to be able to, put my hand out or to do whatever. And I see that with my mother and it's made me. Super, super, super aware if you've got an injury, you've really got to take care of it and for to really be embodied, which of course is so much part of all of the work that I do, I'm really very, very passionate about us showing up fully in our bodies. and kind of, thrown our body around like we got those, we, we got these great bodies, particularly as women, like, I mean, venusian energy, joyous, yes. And I think that's part of that thing. We've talked about this before and how, women. Some women of a certain age will say, Oh, I'm invisible. Nobody looks at me. And I don't, I don't feel that's the case at all. And I don't think you do. And I think that's all part of that, it seems part of being disconnected would lead to that, it's so interesting I had a voicemail from a friend this morning she's out dating with this guy. And she said, don't you follow inspirational people on Instagram? And he said, No, I follow a hot, almost naked young women. And she noticed as they were out, like that, he looked at people, and my response to her was number one, he owned it. He's super aware. Yeah. There's no illusion. And he's Italian. It's part of the culture for to appreciate, but it's different to the culture here. Like I feel much more invisible in Australia than I do in Europe. And you feel that you're looked at and if there's, and people smile at each other in appreciation and maybe it is by being European and growing up in that culture. Doesn't feel predatory, and it doesn't feel nasty and it doesn't feel wrong, it's almost feels like, oh, nice dress or it feels appreciative, in a sense. No, that's the perfect word. Recognizing the difference. and I know a lot of feminist women would really, really give me a hard time about this, but I kind of like the whole thing of what I call sex on the streets, like that we're kind of going, Oh, cute looking guy, cute looking women. And not that you're going out and you're looking for it, but it's sort of nice when a stranger smiles at you. I mean, exactly. And not only a stranger, I mean, it's a whole other topic, but like, when I was practicing law, I mean, there was definitely plenty of inappropriate things said, but my office was a young law firm and it was quite flirtatious. Now, did, this one or that one get in trouble here and there? Yes, that happened. But, to walk in. And it's all mixed up with your confidence too, like, all right, you've got to go down to court and do whatever you're doing, whether it's a motion or a trial and how do we get to that place where, we're all so scared of each other that to say, like, Okay. Oh, it's, it's a shocking thing. I mean, and I'm doing the series in my podcast and the Discipline of Freedom podcast about the archetypal journeys and the archetypal journey is always from, victim to victorious from prostitute to sovereignty, people talk about archetypes, and so you're already the hero. No, no, no, you want to be the hero. Like, that's your journey. Like, that's the endpoint. But you're not starting off at the hero. And, as I always say, it's an axis. It's an axis. There's an axis between good and bad. There's an axis between the victim and the victorious. and some people will start at zero in absolute victimhood, but most people are probably somewhere along the axis. Yeah. No, and it's, the axe is, God, it's so funny how Irish people speak and, but it's so important, isn't it? It's so important, this concept of, of integrating the masculine and the feminine, of playing with the masculine and the feminine. And if you can't experiment with your own self, who are you going to experiment with? Absolutely. Absolutely. So, that's the journey. So, that is actually a really good example. So, as a young woman, a young lawyer, of course, like anybody, I was nervous when I'd have to go get in front of, so if I dress in such a way that, and that wasn't like, falling out of tops or something, but like I knew I looked good. And then people are like, wow, you look like you're going to kill it today. that's a confidence builder. Is that so wrong? No, it's not. No. And clothing can be armor. There's no doubt about it, but there's nothing wrong with donning your armor on occasion. And it's theater. Like, I mean, we're in Leo seasons. It's a perfect time to talk about it. Because Leo is fixed fire, right? And it's rulership. It's creator energy. It's absolutely doesn't want to show weakness, it's also super courageous. There's, and, and fixed fire, like there's a, there's a, it's ability to role play. And it's emerged from cancer. And so in cancer, you're going, okay, so what are my roots? where have I come from? What's my lineage? Can I own it? Do I feel secure? Do I feel safe? Do I feel nurtured? and everybody goes, Oh, blame my mother. No, well, where's your inner child? Are you parenting yourself? Are you nurturing your inner child? Are you taking care of yourself? Because once you begin to do that, well, then you can be generous and more carefree and you can enter into Leo and go, Hey, I want to fly my free flag. I want to be more, which is Leo energy is so about self expression. It's my North node. And it's so hard for me. It's been so hard for me to own that a lot of people would probably think, no, it's not hard. I would say that. No. Oh, my God, it's been such a big journey of not being so super self conscious. Of what people would think or say, Super, super, big journey for me. I mean, I would say the same thing with the Leo moon, that was, Yeah, struggling with my creativity. I know it's in there somewhere. Where is it? And the end of the day, I'm, I'm thankful that it came late in life because I cared less about what people thought, this is my little nation vision. And, I know it's not for everybody. And that's fine. So just to speak to that, it coming later in life, because that's a, a wonderful thing for people to hear, because that's trusting in the cycles, because, we can spend so much time when we're younger or maybe I'm just speaking for myself, we want to arrive, like we want to rush it, we want to be there already. And, and whereas when you're older, I still definitely, I still definitely talk about a tautology have like perfectionist going on, I'm still, and, but I, but I believe you need. high standards as a creator, as an artist, which is about honing your craft, which is around deliberating. It's around the practice. So our conversation comes full circle. So it's about the practice and practice makes progress. And it doesn't necessarily make for perfection, which is, of course, not the goal. The goal is to evolve your work through that practice, through the japa, which is repetition, and then the tapa, which creates the heat, and there's always a tension between. Those two, and that is where the breakthroughs happen, and no, as a sculptor, I mean, God, you're, when you look at things first, you kind of go, Oh my God, the proportions around the shape is wrong. Sweet Divine Mother of God, look at that ear and proportion to the whatever. Sweet Divine Mother of God. Eventually, you kind of go, Oh, I've got that part right. I still may not be, full expression, but, but I've got the technical details. And if you don't get the technical details down, you can't enter into the flow, No, it's true. And the flow. is really about allowing yourself and, and what's the word I want, releasing yourself to have a change in perspective about it. Surrendering to the process. Yeah, because clay is such a good analogy, or that's what I sculpt in at least, like, yeah, you can look at it and go, yeah, all wrong, blah, blah, blah. But it's so forgiving. Like you can just do something, add, subtract, lop the ear off and do it all over again, and And it's so eminently fixable, so, which brings me, I don't know why this brings me back to the beginning of our conversation around daily practice and body and diet and. physical exercise. And I, just to be really clear, I sincerely believe that we need to move our bodies every day, whether it's five minutes every hour or every couple of hours where you just get up and dance in your lounge room. And it's simply about the moving, circling. Yeah. But I went to see the Barbie movie. Did you, what did you think? For me, it was a big fail. Interesting. My comment on it, and I think, and I love Margot Robbie. I think she's really good. And I think I love Ryan Gosling. I think he's great. And I think that the lady who, had the big monologue, which was the central point of the movie of, how women have to be everything, or they think they have to be everything. I thought there was a lot of good parts in it, but I didn't think it held together and my comment was that they should have gotten somebody French or Spanish to write the script because it was too pedestrian, it wasn't risque enough, it wasn't fun enough, it wasn't playful enough. It wasn't smart enough. The script was. Terrible. Wow. Yeah. I want to look cause a friend of mine saw it the other night and she's 10 years younger than me. And her daughter said, I want you to go with me. Daughter is I'm going to say she's 22 or something. So the next day I asked her, what did you think? She said, I don't know. It was a little too woke. And it made it feel forced. Yes. What I felt with it was that, the way Americans kind of, they hammer their morals, they don't assume that there's any intelligence in the audience. So they kind of hammer and the way that, the Europeans are much, much more nuanced. And I really think it would have benefited from more nuance, but it didn't hold together. I mean, the classic message of it was that it was this. the reversal of where the women were all in power and the men were looking for attention or Ken was, and then it went to where they went into the real world and they saw how disjointed and disconnected that was. And then he discovered patriarchy, so. He was kind of going full force with that. And then in the end, came to, Oh, wouldn't integration work? So, I know you have to have your, your messages simplistic if you want to reach a wide audience. But it was. So woke and I think wokeness is a problem, I mean, I go back to I was saying this to a friend this morning who's living in Italy and he was talking about an Afghani family who are living there and the Italians are a little, racist towards them, not little they're racist towards them. And I said, when I lived in New York, I used to have this Ugandan friend who I loved. And, the race conversation come up because in Ireland, you don't really grow up with the race conversation because everybody's kind of the same. And they said, but, but he's black, you must see that he's black. And I said, he's sitting in front of me, of course he's black. But does that mean I'm going to speak to him differently? No, I mean, and this is 30 years ago, and so my argument then, which my argument would be the same, is that race is conditioning. It's conditioning. And we do, we do use shorthand, like, oh, the Asian girl, it's an archetype. There's an Asian girl and she'll look in a certain way. Now there's tons of different nationalities and ethnicities within that, but people constantly describe me as Irish. so should I get offended? No. so it's, so I think this is where the wokeness is ridiculous. Yeah. I agree. I agree. Oh, she's the older Irish woman. Right. Nice. who cares? I am older. I am Irish. Right. Exactly. Garson's company they've done a lot of diversity awareness training, and now they're doing some like communication training. And they're embarking on this. He was telling me that the facilitators were asking for examples. And this is arguably more pertinent to the diversity conversation than to the communication conversation. But he said he was going to order in food for the company because they're only there two days a week. So he was considering ordering some form of Asian food. And so he asked an Asian person, are you familiar with this restaurant? And the person was offended by that. I mean, people really. and so it's like asking somebody Jewish, about Jewish rituals? And what you did for Passover than a Catholic person would? I mean, well, it comes back to my thing of that if you're looking to be offended, then, then you will be. It's simply a matter of time. Absolutely. It's probably not much time. Yeah. It's so crazy. So what you're doing is, is you're being judge and jury. This is really, really important. Yes, you're right. So what you're doing is, is that you're listening to judge. You're not listening. You're listening to judge and you're listening to be offended and you're listening to find fault with what the other person is saying. So you're not having a conversation. You're not in an open dialogue. You're not in the space of where you're leading with love. That's for sure. So you really have to check yourself. Yeah, that's really true. It'll be, it'll be very interesting to see how we get ourselves out of this corner we've painted ourselves into it's, and who knows, may not happen in our lifetime I hope to God it does, but I mean, Astrologically 2026 is a turning point. I mean, we do have Pluto going into Aquarius, so it'll be interesting. So there is transformation, that's going to happen, and coming back to the daily practice and coming back to all of it. there's a dark side to all of the technology and there's the dark sides to the Aquarian age, so we can have community which is all about love. We can have community that's all about control and dictatorship and, fascism. And that's essentially what wokeness is, isn't it? Basically. Yeah. Oh, I mean, I had to Google it a few weeks ago. I thought, am I misinterpreting this? Because of course it sounds like being awake. Yeah, yeah. But, I don't know if you got around to listening to that Abdi Assadi podcast where he, the being woke versus being awake. Like, I love how he talks about that but going back to the daily practice and considering a change to the daily practice and, I mean, specifically exercise. I guess that's really what I'm trying to say I'm in the same position I would like to lose some weight. And I just look amazing. Oh God, thank you for not seeing my whole body just let, can you just let it land that you'd have committed. I know. Right. Okay. Sorry. You're right. You are absolutely right. But it's also that same philosophy of I want to enjoy life. I, it's good enough. It's fine. Maybe it's just a matter of being gentler with myself because part of the thing is I feel like I've been waking up with. kind of achy here and there, and I'm not really somebody who has a lot of pain. I have my other crazy thing, as we have talked about with the dizziness and all of that, but I don't really have a lot of pain, but I have been having sort of these aches and pains so I guess part of the message, my intuition is saying to me yes, it's lovely to have strong muscles and do the arm weights and dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. But. There's parts of what you're doing that is kind of, in the long run, will be doing more harm than good. So, maybe it's that message of kindler, gentler kind of form of exercise. Like, more emphasis on walking, hiking. yoga, then, the actual weights everybody does say that you need to carry weights as you get older. I'm sorry that you need to do weights as you get older because of bone density and stuff and I haven't had my bone density checked. But I carry firewood in every day. I'm always carrying bags, it's just the nature of how my life works. Constantly carrying stuff, I live in a loft, so I'm up and down stairs all day long. And actually, I am conscious of not, doing the lazy man's load, as my mother would say, so I will do more up and down the stairs because I'm conscious that the steps are good for me and it's good for me to do more of that. I don't think you need to do as much, I think that it comes back down to cycles and rhythms and it comes back to where you are in your life, you're not supposed to be as taught and as fit as a 20 year old, I look at them and I go, Oh my God, I never wished like that. And, I was like, yeah, I did, actually, my sister has a picture of herself on the fridge, when she's around her 20s, late 20s. And she looks amazing, long legs, like leggy and skinny. And, she has this story. And we all had the story that we were still kind of overweight at that point in time, which is so ridiculous because there wouldn't have been a pic on us. What a self portrait to have that photo sitting there on your fridge. It's self torture. Oh. Well I don't think so. Well, it's a kind of a reminder of your essence, isn't it? And it's a reminder of again, it's the stories you tell yourself or the stories you tell others. I mean, I really do believe and I really advocate that, like, you've got to move every day. I absolutely do. And I think you've also got to be really conscious of. What you're eating and you've got to be conscious are you drinking alcohol every day? And are you because those are empty calories, there's no protein in those Good in that How many coffees are you drinking? I think portion control is so important I mean like I have spent a lot of time in France and I see those women and they taste everything, but they don't eat a lot of anything. Yeah, that's the key. I think. I think that is actually the key. But again, you've got to find that for yourself. I mean, I read, what is it? Women, food and God, and that thing of deciding what your body wants before you open the fridge. I mean, I don't do any processed food, like I'll occasionally have cheese, and when people come, I don't serve, I don't serve a whole plate of starters and nibbles before we have dinner. I didn't even consciously decide not to do that, but I just stopped doing it and, and occasionally people will bring stuff if they ask to bring something, because my mother says in Australia, never get a night off when you go out because you always have to contribute so... I have to tell you something, Penny, but go ahead. Yeah. So, so, so people might bring something, and that's part of my, you can call weight control I just kind of go like, no, I don't need to eat dinner before I'm going to eat dinner. Well, you're doing people such a favor because it's just, it's just too much food, I mean, And too much to say. Yeah, I'm totally. That timing thing is important. Yeah. I mean, we've definitely done that where we've had, the cheese thing vegetables and hummus thing. And it's then people are, they don't eat your dinner that you've worked on hard. It's, it's crazy. Yeah. Do joke with my niece because I'm always late for everything. And a friend one time for Christmas, we're having a Christmas, Swedish Christmas dinner. And how the Swedes are like, they're pretty uptight and punctual. And I was doing a market that day was when I was doing the jewelry. And she said, will you bring the nibbles? And I said, no one ever asked me to bring the nibbles, I'll bring the dessert. And she said, the desserts are all done, like she's a Virgo. And I said, I'm doing a market. I might get there late. and like, it was her friend who's, who's my closer friend. She said, no fucking way. There's no fucking way you get her to do the starters. So she insisted upon me doing the starters. We arrived with the starters, when they were coming back from the cricket game, which is what the starters were intended for. And they did eat the starters at two in the morning when they were all playing. All right. They served their purpose. She's never asked me to do the starters. Good. That was the end of that. So what I was going to say, which is so funny, my friend Louise, I don't remember the context that this came up, like, I don't know, she came over and she brought something and she goes, well, I'll never bring flowers because that's all you fucking need, right? You're cooking dinner and you're have 10 balls in the air and then you have to go look for a vase and cut the, and I just thought that was hilarious because it is really true, But I love flowers, I never say no to flowers. That never struck me as being such a pain, but I just thought that was really funny,'cause she's just like, forget the flowers. Oh, yeah. And I do say, I do also say, so my niece and I are, we do the dessert for Christmas every year. As I say, if the dessert is good, the, the dinner is. Forgotten very quickly. Right. That's true too. I mean, who doesn't love dessert? Yeah, and again, a taste of it, like I'm not a, I don't have, I have much more of a savory, taste, rather than sweet, but I love to make, I love to bake, probably comes back to, that's what I used to do with my mother as a child, yeah. No, I've always loved sugar, but I've always had issues with it at the same time. And it's that same thing, we were talking about recently of, I can't get away with it. I can have a few bites and I'm okay. But if I really eat like a whole piece of cake or pie I'm not going to sleep and I don't want to not sleep. Oh, well, for me, I don't think I overdo it on sugar. I remember one time when I went away for a weekend with friends, they'd made a pavlova. And we would have been drinking and I do remember kind of going, I'm having a sugar coma. I'm just going to lie down. So it's really, it's terrible. I don't sleep if I eat red meat. Oh, that's interesting. My body doesn't like it. And speaking of which we're having the full moon tomorrow. I don't sleep for three or four days before the full moon. Wow. I don't sleep well, I have disturbed sleep, so it's that tension again that's building, I work with the energies of the moon and it's like you set your intention with the new moon and by the time the full moon comes you're aware of where your resistance is and you're aware of, what's being revealed to you. you come into awareness and awakeness about your wokeness. And you choose to let go of the wokeness. And so the story goes and then as soon as the full moon pops, the tension is gone. Extraordinary. and don't work with cycles and they don't believe in nature it's all right there. It's all right there for us, so come back to what you think of the diet, the exercise and the pushing too hard. I think that my body is, is telling me to yes, move every day, but to be gentler. And so I'm going to have to rethink a little bit of this. I haven't been to my hot yoga now in a couple of months between, being home with my remodel and traveling. Maybe I'll just try for once a week and then get back to the full routine when I, get back from my trip so in, in yoga, there's a term certainly in the lineage that I follow that it's, the, as I've said, the japa is the repetition and the tapa creates the heat and what you're doing is is you're building the capacity of your nervous system to be able to hold the tension, so if you're doing three minutes of breath of fire, or you're doing, 11 minutes of breath of fire, so what it means is that, because the meditation is off the mat, like the living is done off the mat. So you're increasing the capacity of your nervous system to be able to hold the tension, which is why you would do exercise, and it's because you want to be able to change gears, in your life, if you do have to, run after something, or whatever it is that would require you to hold the capacity for great stress. And, I'm talking about both physical, mental, emotional stress, and everybody has those. Like that's what you want your body to be able to do. Yes. Yes. And, and that's different when you're a teen and you're in your twenties and when you're in your thirties and your forties and your fifties, and we're both in our sixties now. And, and the last thing is that every seven years, your consciousness changes every 11, your intelligence and how you use it. And every seven years is part of a Saturn cycle. Every 28 years is the full cycle. Every 12 years. Is the Jupiter cycle. So it goes to each house in the zodiac and comes back. And I was just looking your perfection. You're presently in a cancer moon. year. And on your birthday, you will move into Leo. So it's really your time to shine, and that's your focus for the year. And so that's the energy that you're working on. And like, and if you look at your chart, your Leo is in that fifth house. And right now in terms of your transit. You've got Mars, which is right on your Venus Mars is your will. So it's interesting that you're talking about this at this point in time, because Mars, Mars is, will, It's your fire, it's like, okay, how do I access it? And with that transit going through your sixth house, which is the house of your daily do, it's the house of how you make your routines work. it's the house of employees. It's the house of, your health and your wellbeing and your self care and the allocation of your resources, the allocation of your time, all of that. So it makes absolute sense. But remembering again, like that everything is cyclical, you should be moving more in your 20s than you are in your 60s. They should be serving us. 20 year olds. To serving us with deference and respect. All works that way. Unfortunately. I was gonna say, we might be doing something wrong that we haven't created it that way. I know. I was gonna say something about that. The being in the twenties thing, but I don't know, went right outta my head. It's a sixties thing, what can I say? But so it is care and It's movement. And I do think, I mean, I used to go so hard, like, God, I lived hard. I worked hard. I played hard. when I went to the gym, like I'm an Aries son, I've got a lot of energy, I'm an energetic. Oh, I know what I was going to say. What you were talking about made me think of how my what the woman I studied Ayurveda with and she's a young woman. She may be now in her early 40s. She said, like. It's not that you're never allowed to eat ice cream again, or a burger or whatever your thing is, it's that building the capacity thing, the building the capacity of the nervous system, building the capacity of the digestive system, so your whole system doesn't go on the fritz if you do have that. Ice cream cone or burger or whatever it is. It's the apana the apana. So prana is bringing in energy, but it's life force energy. It's not just the breath. And then the apana is elimination. So the biggest question that anybody who's listening to this should be asking is, is how well am I digesting life? Am I hanging on to, when my sister cut my doll's hair at four, which she didn't, but whatever to mind. Am I hanging on to kind of little and old resentments? am I completely in the present, oh, we have a great story where we gave my brother this I think it might've been ABC, the lexicon of love we gave him an LP for his birthday or something. And then we were going to a party that night. We said, Oh, we've got no present. We need to take your present back. Terrible things that you do when you're, Oh my God, that is so funny. Like, and it's kind of family folklore. So yeah. That's pretty funny. Oh, wait, is he the youngest? He is the youngest. God bless him. Oh, my God. Poor baby. Oh, I know. He's so good with women, though, as a consequence of growing up with four sisters. And the youngest sister was five years older than him. Oh, my God. Oh, he's so beautiful. He's so gorgeous. he was so loved. Yeah. Oh, I'm sure he was adored. My God. I think that's a perfect place to end our very serious conversation about health and well being. Yes, exactly. Always with a sense of humor. And I was going to say, and next week we'll talk on, we have no idea. Right. It's always a wild ride, so come back and join us. With our editorial plan. Right. Ciao. Thank you for listening, it's been so beautiful to share this conversation with you. I hope everybody else has enjoyed it, and learned something. Oh, me too, absolutely. And we're here for questions, if there are any. Oh yes, please, please, please, please. And let us know any topics you'd like us to speak on. Absolutely.

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